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Judaism, Christianity or Islam: Which is the True Legacy of Abraham? ( 2 of 5 )
Which is the True Legacy of Abraham - Islam, Judaism or Christianity?
Jews, Christians and Muslims agree, Abraham, the friend of God, is an example of pure and unconditional righteousness and faith.
The love that Abraham displayed towards God is clearly seen in Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice his only beloved son.
Representing the Muslim perspective was Shabir Ally: Shabir Ally has earned a B.A. in Religious Studies from Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario, with a specialization in Biblical Literature, and an M.A. in Religious Studies from the University of Toronto with a specialization in Quranic Exegesis.
He is now in his third year of Ph.D studies in Quranic Exegesis at the University of Toronto.
Shabir is the president of the Islamic Information & Dawah Centre International in Toronto where he functions as Imam.
He travels internationally to represent Islam in public lectures and interfaith dialogues.
He explains Islam on a weekly television program called “Let the Quran Speak.
Representing the Christian side was Dr. Douglas Jacoby: Dr. Jacoby is a leading teacher, and theologian.
He has earned a Bachelor of Arts in history from Drew University.
He also received a Master theological studies in New Testament History from the Harvard Divinity School and Doctor of Ministry from Drew University in New Jersey.
He is the Director of the Athens Institute of Ministry, Atlanta, Gerogia USA.
He’s been on staff of several churches around the world, both evangelist and teacher.
He’s spoken and taught in more than 125 cities around the world.
Representing the Jewish side was Rabbi Shmuley Boteach: Rabbi Shmuley is a world famous TV host, scholar, debater and author.
He is host of the daily national radio program, “The Rabbi Shmuley Show” on Oprah & Friends, XM Satellite Radio, and host of the award-winning national TV show, Shalom in the Home on TLC.
He is also the international best-selling author of 20 books, including his most recent work, “The Broken American Male: And How to Fix Him”.
His recent works, “Parenting With Fire” and “Ten Conversations You Need to Have With Your Children” were both launched on Oprah’s TV show.
The Topic of Debate: Judaism, Christianity or Islam: Which is the True Legacy of Abraham?
Shabir Ally (www.ShabirAlly.com)
vs.
Dr. Douglas Jacoby (www.douglasjacoby.com)
vs.
Rabbi Shmuley Boteach (www.Shmuley.com)
(the Hammerschmidt Chapel at Elmhurst College in Elmhurst, Illinois, USA 7th June 2008)
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Duration : 0:28:31
NO ! God spoke face …
NO ! God spoke face to face to Moses on the mountain. There were witnesess there when God wrote the commandments infront of Moses. But Muhammad did marry a 13 yr old. If it is wrong now it must have been wrong then. The girl was only a baby. what 13? Plus why wasnt the Quran compiled when Muhammad was alive? Its saves a lot of argument. Allah knew this. Most religious people always have an excuse. But you cant deny that God spoke to moses himself not no angel. God direct !
jews and christians …
jews and christians likes abraham and isaac only…muslims like abraham,ismael and isaac
The weakest/ …
The weakest/strongest link to something that doesn’t even exist? Almost probably Abraham never existed so what is the real point of this exercise. I would imagine its akin to theologians debating how many angels can fit on the head of a pin.
There is nothing in science/the natural world that points to any kind of supernatural creator. Just as there is no evidence supporting the existence of pink unicorns.
Furthermore, one of …
Furthermore, one of the compilers of the Quran was a jew named Zayd ibn thabit. much of the beliefs in islam is borrowed from Judaism. i.e. tahweed, kosher laws, etc.
that is something many of you fools don’t know.
I left Islam because it is a chaotic and inaccurate doctrine that suffers many flaws through out humanity with violence. The Quran is really that terrible.
Your info is wrong. …
Your info is wrong. do a search on muhammed edh dhib and what he and his cousin discovered in Qumran.
The manuscript dates back over 2500 years and it proves the Quran is wrong about lives of Abraham, Ishmael, isaac and many more.
There are no errors in the Torah. can’t say the same for the Quran or Bible because there are many versions of them claiming that some Qurans state Isa was crucified while the other Quran says that he was not.
go type in Ahmediyya if you don’t believe me.
cont…
God created four …
God created four books The Taurant the Zaboor the Injeel and the Quran. In the Quran Allah says that before he revealed another book that he destroyed the one before it bucause it was inconsistent with the times. So how the do the jews say they have the original Taurant and the Bible is not one of the four books Allah created. So the Holy Quran is the Word of Allah most high and we belive also in the 3 books before it. Also Abraham(pbuh) built the KABA Islam was his only faith.
here is a much …
here is a much bigger issue my Jewish friend the torah has been compiled in written format only centuries later … the bible’s story is known the koran is the only book that has been written as the prophet delivers the message..and it compiled 2 years after mohammed’s death .. and was copied few years after that… not to mention the hundreds of people who absolutely memorized it from back to back. The koran is the only authentic source,the authentic bible and torah doesn’t exist anymore.
thats just a bland …
thats just a bland umption that is scientifically incorrect, everyone knows that there is a clear unity of a creator in the universe .. however .. what those chaps are arguing is the link … which is the weakest/strongest link to God ?
Let’s see. Which of …
Let’s see. Which of the three systems that believe in the non-existent sky daddy is true? This is a trick question, right? The answer has to be none of them because the entity they worship doesn’t exist.
Okay lol, i will …
Okay lol, i will look into them at a later time as my hebrew and arabic is not that fluent. inshallah
Forget archaeology. …
Forget archaeology. Look at it in the Torah and the Quran very carefully.
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this?
tinyurl(.)c o m / dndvg2
Did you study the …
Did you study the word Pharaoh carefully? You will tell me what is my point.
and what is your …
and what is your point?
The topic is about Abraham.
Did you even read the Torah? I have both books next to each other and the “recite” book does not stand well my friend.
Study the word …
Study the word Pharaoh in both the Torah and Quran and tell me which one is more authentic.
Judaism IS the true …
Judaism IS the true legacy of Abraham/Avraham/Ibrahim.
The Torah is a perfect book.
One point the imam did not mention is that in the Torah, Ishmael was already promised a blessed nation and was also circumcised on the same day as Avraham while isaac was promised a nation too with Avraham to establish the convenant.
This is one reason I choose Judaism over Islam.
The Quran does not make sense.
However, I agree Islam and Judaism are the closest religions.
Christianity is another story.
Ghassan3052006:
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Ghassan3052006:
Brother Hassan, when you reply to comments, please try to reply to the last comment of one particular commenter, if they have left a chain of comments. This way you will not break up the comments into apparently random order.
When you are leaving a comment chain, make each subsequent segment of the comment chain a reply to the immediately prior comment segment you left.
This technique retains the readabilty of the comments.
Wassalaam.
4.Jesus didnt …
4.Jesus didnt fornicate, and abstained from extramarital contact with women. Now, this issue extends to the least physical contact with the opposite sex. With the exception of performing religious rituals and helping those in
need, Jesus never …
need, Jesus never even touched a woman other than his mother. Strictly practicing Orthodox Jews maintain this practice to this day in observance of Old Testament law. Likewise, practicing Muslims dont even shake hands between the sexes. Can Christian hug your neighbor and kiss the bride congregations make the same claim?
3.Jesus didnt give …
3.Jesus didnt give or take usury, in compliance with the Old Testament prohibition (Exodus 22:25). Usury is forbidden in the Old Testament and the Quran, as it was forbidden in the religion of Jesus. The economies of most Christian countries, however, are structured upon usury.
1.Jesus was …
1.Jesus was circumcised (Luke 2:21). Paul taught it wasnt necessary (Rom 4:11 and Gal 5:2). Muslims believe it is.
2.Jesus didnt eat pork, in keeping with Old Testament law (Leviticus 11:7 and Deuteronomy 14:8). Muslims also believe pork is forbidden. Christians well, you get the idea.
3.Jesus’ mother …
3.Jesus’ mother covered her hair, and this practice was maintained among the Christian women of the Holy Land up to the middle of the twentieth century. Again, this is a practice maintained among Muslims as well as Orthodox Jews (of which Jesus was one), but not among modern day Christians.
2.Jesus dressed …
2.Jesus dressed modestly. If we close our eyes and form a mental picture, we see flowing robes, from wrists to ankles—much like the loose Arabian thobes and the Indio-Pakistani shalwar kameez, typical of the Muslims of those areas. What we don’t imagine is the revealing or seductive clothing so ubiquitous in Christian cultures.
1.Jesus was bearded …
1.Jesus was bearded, as are most Muslims, but only the rare Christian.
Sorry mr friend its …
Sorry mr friend its not ture Quran say ([2/190] And fight in the Way of Allâh those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allâh likes not the transgressors. (This Verse is the first one that was revealed in connection with Jihâd, but it was supplemented by another ).